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An idea of anti-”flag” campaign?  0

Posted on August 19th, 2005. About Anti-Blogger campaign, Blogging.

Found this on this blog and loved it:

…It might be quite humorous if a ton of bloggers marked the Blogger buzz page as offensive. I’m not saying you should go do that, because you can think for yourself. But, maybe they’ll get the hint. Of course they’re too chicken to republish that blog so that we can see the flag button. Instead you could (but again, I’m not saying you should, I’m saying you could) email them a bunch of times to remind them how much you hate this new feature and why.

Lovely ;-)

More Blogger Flag thoughts  0

Posted on August 19th, 2005. About Anti-Blogger campaign, Blogging.

I repost here the comment I have made on this blog as the original post made me think of more facets to this story and I think this is really important as well:

As I see it, it will only too often lead to completely legitimate blogs being removed/unlisted without a warning, especially since there’s no way for a blog owner to see if his/her blog has been flagged and home many times, and I suspect blogger itself hasn’t decided yet how many times a blog should be flagged to take action on it.

Re: “For example, could a pro-choice blog be taken down by an organised anti-abortion email campaign of “visit this blog and flag it”?” - imagine a worse possibility, an eejit with too much spare time on his hands surfing from blog to blog and flagging everything he sees simply for fun - lovely eh? It doesn’t take a campaign or a spammer to cause trouble so.

Re: “carrying the navbar is a small price to pay for free hosting, particularly as the alternative would probably be carrying advertising” - I have news for you. Even without the bar, you’re still carrying Blogger’s ad on your blog - look at your sidebar and there’s the button there that by TOS you’re not supposed to remove either. I didn’t mind the toolbar the way it was but the “Flag” button is definitely more than I’d like to see on my blogs.

All in all, this looks either as a very poorly thought out attempt to get the users to do Blogger’s work for free - without thinking what might come out of it and weighing all the pros and cons - or the beginning of censorship in the Internet - something I’d hate to see ever happen…

An update: more about Blogger flag  0

Posted on August 19th, 2005. About Anti-Blogger campaign, Blogging.

This is kind of a follow-up to the previous post. I have researched the issue of Bloggr’s new “flag” button a bit deeper and this is what I’ve found out.

First of all, although formally Blogger is owned by Google these are two separate entities more or less independent in their operation - so a blog getting flagged and unlisted by Blogger doesn’t mean anything as to it getting indexed/ranked in Google itself. Secondly, as the Blogger’s help article on the Flag button points out,

This means the blog won’t be promoted on Blogger.com but will still be available on the web — we prefer to keep in mind that one person’s vulgarity is another’s poetry. Or something like that.

After some more reseach, I have noticed that the “Flag” button indeed only appears on the newly updated blogs, while those that haven’t been updated recently still don’t have it in their toolbar. Which of course means that all the abandoned blogs are there to stay - well done Blogger folks. If you were running out of space and cancelling blogs for that reason (like I suggested in one of my previous posts), this is definitely not a solution to your problem.

Meanwhile, the Blogger folks leave it to themselves to decide your blog’s life if they choose to do so:

For more serious cases, such as spam blogs or sites engaging in illegal activity, we will continue to enforce our existing policies (removing content and deleting accounts when necessary).

As a sidenote, imagine some eejit with a bit too much time on their hands just browsing from blog to blog clicking “Flag” on each one - how will Blogger handle that?

Blogger takes the lazy option on spam blogs: new “flag” option  0

Posted on August 19th, 2005. About Anti-Blogger campaign, Google, SEO, Blogging, Black Hat.

Came across this post on Google’s new policy regarding Blogger blogs:

…the folks over at Google have announced a half-arsed effort to appease recent critics of their inaction over spam blogs by launching a new option for Blogspot blogs titled “Flag As Objectionable”.

The next time your reading a blogspot.com hosted blog that’s been recently created (it only applies to new blogs), you can know tell Google if you don’t like it and if they get enough complaints they’ll either “delist” the blog from the “Next blog” option found at the top of blogspot hosted blogs, or if they deem its really serious, god help us, they might even ban it. So basically get enough people together to target a site you don’t like on Blogger now and Google will help make sure no one gets to see it…that’s right, because they’ve also included “politically incorrect, potential hurtful, or just plain gross” in the criteria, but chances are if you’ve got a spam blog you’ll be totally unaffected.

Considering the percentage of B&P blogs on Blogger, and the percentage of abandoned blogs, chances are B&P folks are still safe. Besides, this obviously doesn’t affect Blogger blogs hosted elsewhere. Oh yeah, and there was nothing there about Blogger cancelling the blogs in question. From the general point of view of regular blogging folks though, the “politically incorrect” part sounds fishy… so should somebody not like your opinion on some touchy topic and you’re doomed? Where’s my freedom of speech and how different is this from censorship?

My counter is back on!  0

Posted on August 19th, 2005. About Miscellaneous, Blogging.

Happy days, Earl has finally found a minute to repair my counter for this blog! Now I will be able to know just how popular this place really is ;-) Thanks Earl and your health! :-)

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